I had this long reply written out and then Chrome crashed and LJ of course does not save replies. Cue sadface that lasted for approximately two days. Sigh. Oh noooooooooooh. I sooo hate it when that happens. *feels your pain*
I really wish all actors had that sort of relationship with and understanding of fandom. Yes, that would be great but I think it's the exception rather than the norm.
<It doesn't strike me like sexual chemistry but professional -- professionally very very good even, but still based in what chemistry they have together as actors, not so much as people, though they certainly get along. Benedict doesn't talk about Martin too terribly different than he talks about his other colleagues; his press junkets are always about how he greatly admires the people he signs up to do projects with. He's rather a consummate professional in that way, always has something good to say about other people. THIS. THIS SO MUCH. I am so happy that I'm not the only one who interpets what he says in interviews that way. :)))) It's PR work and of course he will only say the most complimentary things about his colleagues and the finished product. That's not to say he doesn't like Martin but I think it's very hard (or even impossible) to judge from his interviews how close he and Martin are.
I read disgust in his microexpressions when he's fending off gay speculation and the slashing quadrant of the fandom. Not exhaust from too much press junkets necessarily, and not straight up homophobia, but I think he has problems conceiving as BBC Sherlock as not him in some ways, and why would anyone want to see him and a man (even if it is John) banging? Why are we focused on the prurient and the lurid? Don't we have better things to do? YES!!!! I have thought for so long that he thinks any references to slash mean that we all think he plays Sherlock as gay and that all the fuss that is made about the romantic undertones etc of the series are all sensationalist and people pointing the finger and shuddering in disgust when that couldn't be further from the truth.
I personally feel like no one's ever sat down with Benedict and laid it out to him that queer representation is important to them, important to the canon and subtext of the entire ACD canon, and BBC Sherlock is playing with those tropes even when Benedict isn't trying to engage them. The show's shot like that, the show is written like that, like a romance, and it's not our perverted little minds (though it is a little bit). Yes yes yes again! :))) And not just queer representation - also the reasons why women, both queer and straight, are drawn to male/male pairings. After all, he has expressed support for feminist ideas, so if only he understood better I think he would be much happier with it all.
My guess is that Martin just has better control over that generally and probably doesn't sign up to do the punishing press junket marathons that Benedict does, but I mean...yeah, anyway, I'm rambling. Martin is definitely different - I tend to think it's because he doesn't care as much and is less affected.
All I'm really saying is that Freebatch doesn't do much for me either, though I use the term Freebatch loosely to refer to their friendship and professional relationship (which I still find very heartwarming to think about it; we wouldn't have Johnlock without it). Oh yes, if they didn't fit so well together as actors Johnlock would be almost impossible to envision. :)
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Date: 2014-07-06 10:19 pm (UTC)I had this long reply written out and then Chrome crashed and LJ of course does not save replies. Cue sadface that lasted for approximately two days. Sigh.
Oh noooooooooooh. I sooo hate it when that happens. *feels your pain*
I really wish all actors had that sort of relationship with and understanding of fandom.
Yes, that would be great but I think it's the exception rather than the norm.
<It doesn't strike me like sexual chemistry but professional -- professionally very very good even, but still based in what chemistry they have together as actors, not so much as people, though they certainly get along. Benedict doesn't talk about Martin too terribly different than he talks about his other colleagues; his press junkets are always about how he greatly admires the people he signs up to do projects with. He's rather a consummate professional in that way, always has something good to say about other people.
THIS. THIS SO MUCH. I am so happy that I'm not the only one who interpets what he says in interviews that way. :)))) It's PR work and of course he will only say the most complimentary things about his colleagues and the finished product. That's not to say he doesn't like Martin but I think it's very hard (or even impossible) to judge from his interviews how close he and Martin are.
I read disgust in his microexpressions when he's fending off gay speculation and the slashing quadrant of the fandom. Not exhaust from too much press junkets necessarily, and not straight up homophobia, but I think he has problems conceiving as BBC Sherlock as not him in some ways, and why would anyone want to see him and a man (even if it is John) banging? Why are we focused on the prurient and the lurid? Don't we have better things to do?
YES!!!! I have thought for so long that he thinks any references to slash mean that we all think he plays Sherlock as gay and that all the fuss that is made about the romantic undertones etc of the series are all sensationalist and people pointing the finger and shuddering in disgust when that couldn't be further from the truth.
I personally feel like no one's ever sat down with Benedict and laid it out to him that queer representation is important to them, important to the canon and subtext of the entire ACD canon, and BBC Sherlock is playing with those tropes even when Benedict isn't trying to engage them. The show's shot like that, the show is written like that, like a romance, and it's not our perverted little minds (though it is a little bit).
Yes yes yes again! :)))
And not just queer representation - also the reasons why women, both queer and straight, are drawn to male/male pairings. After all, he has expressed support for feminist ideas, so if only he understood better I think he would be much happier with it all.
My guess is that Martin just has better control over that generally and probably doesn't sign up to do the punishing press junket marathons that Benedict does, but I mean...yeah, anyway, I'm rambling.
Martin is definitely different - I tend to think it's because he doesn't care as much and is less affected.
All I'm really saying is that Freebatch doesn't do much for me either, though I use the term Freebatch loosely to refer to their friendship and professional relationship (which I still find very heartwarming to think about it; we wouldn't have Johnlock without it).
Oh yes, if they didn't fit so well together as actors Johnlock would be almost impossible to envision. :)